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Devils Come in Different shapes May 14, 2022 17:24:30 GMT -5

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Kamae's efforts on Namek had not been completely without merit. His own being nourished by the dark energies that resided in the northern scar. He had once believed he had to create a place of dark energy, he had found one on namek some time ago. Even though it was some distance away, an event that had taken place had filled this place with an energy he relished to take in. He felt relaxed as he stood silently among the crags of the northern scar, eyes closed and body absorbing the dark energy around him.

While it was no grand or flashy display, just a man standing amongst blackened rock in the middle of no where. If one could sense magical energy, they would know just what was happening. A demon feeding on the darkness here, or rather... he was pulling it in his direction. Yet that wasn't the only thing Kamae was feeding on. He had been made aware of the void between realms thanks to Celeste, the empty and cold space that resided between the material plane and potentially others. A space that held nothing within it, a vacancy cold and forgotten... perhaps intentionally by living things.

Kamae had begun to feed on that empty space, an endless source of nourishment for the demon. So vast he could spend the rest of eternity taking it in... no, he supposed it was the opposite. He was hollowing himself out by letting that which was inside flow outwards. Reversing that which all things did. An odd sensation but it only made him stronger slowly with time. With a heavy sigh, the demon would finish his feeding, and roll his shoulders. His eyes opening and seeing the world differently for a short time. Blackened with outlines of white... yet it didn't last long. As time passed his vision returned to normal, and he found himself simply relishing in the after glow. Whatever had happened here before had been a great boon to Kamae, and now... Now he was going to use that boon for his own sake.

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Devils Come in Different shapes May 14, 2022 18:58:27 GMT -5

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The beauty of Namek was matched by the ugly nature of the scar, and he knew this better than most. It wasn't too far from here that his good intentions and showing up to help a friend ended with them turning into what he could only call an abomination that stained Namek as much as his own memories. Most of those that were here were impacted in their own varying ways, but he hadn't seen them for some time for better or worse, and the wounds created that day were still healing. It was somewhere he wished to stay away from, but was drawn here all the same, be it for the sake of curiosity or the guilt he felt in not being able to deal with the situation better than he had.

It seemed something else was here as well, but i felt strange, more so because whatever it was felt like nothing at all. Something was there all the same, as what he could feel was the magic and the way it was flowing very deliberately towards whatever it was. Following the stream being pulled, Ward hovered in the same direction with narrowed eyes and his senses heightened, but still he couldn't feel the epicenter, and the closer he got the more that fact annoyed him. If it was a someone and not simply a something there was a good chance they could feel him headed in their direction as he made no attempts to hide himself.

Whatever was happened seemed to slow and stop, and another equally strange sensation filled him, but by this point he had seen what he couldn't feel, and whatever it was made him immediately sigh. Whatever it was clearly had its power hidden, but there was something there he could feel, similarly to what he could feel inside of Phakk when she was hiding her darkness away, and that fact alone kept raising Ward's frustration and alertness to the point he was tempted to immediately confront whatever it was. All this time he was moving closer, both feet firmly on the ground and walking with purpose directly towards whatever or whoever this was, and while his face didn't look necessarily angry, if it showed an emotion at all, his body language made it clear he was headed right at Kamae with a less than pleasant demeanor.

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Devils Come in Different shapes May 14, 2022 19:26:58 GMT -5

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As the demon had finish his feeding, he immediately was greeted with a sight that turned his stomach. Not out of fear, but out of pure disgust. A shinjin was walking towards him and yet the demon could only smile his toothy grin while he waited patiently for the shinjin to come closer. Clearly a powerful one, but if a shinjin wasn't strong, it would be a disappointment. As it came closer, Kamae would hold out his arms in a welcoming gesture despite his hatred and disgust rolling in his chest.

"My oh my... The peace loving race of Namekians have finally managed to wrangle a Shinjin to their world. Truly this people possess a beggars dream power of getting others to work for them."

Kamae was fully ready for an attack to arrive any moment, and as such the Sankishin was summoned. The demonic aura of his body cloaking Kamae in its shroud while he waited patiently for the other to get closer.

"I'm surprised you aren't up in your little clouds in heaven, churning out another world and species to subjugate to your designs."

Kamae was clearly mocking their creation role, as he despised that about the shinjin the most. But then again, Kamae viewed the world in a different way than most.

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Devils Come in Different shapes May 14, 2022 19:50:10 GMT -5

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What might have been seen as an obvious provaction given the way Ward moved forward, he stopped a few feet away and slipped his hands behind his back. His eyes looked over the creature in front of him, giving a quiet scoff before his eyes raised and locked onto Kamae's with a piercing stare. Despite the body language he had shown prior, he now looked stoically calm, and there was not as much as a shred of emotion from any part of his body. If not for the involuntary movements of his eyes, or the raising of his chest as he breathed, he might have come off as a statue one assumes follows your gaze from any point in a room.

Ward wasn't the tallest of beings, so standing close enough that his arm could have reached if he felt so inclined meant he was fairly close, wanting to get a good feel from the somewhat antagonistic being. The way he spoke so confidently as to call him a Shinjin was interesting enough given even all the time he had spent in the mortal realm now, few had any idea what species he was gave him the feeling this was in fact not a mortal. Mixed with the strange feeling of magic he had only gotten from Erebos, who also wasn't a mortal, and the way he continued on the possibilities were ever shrinking.

"What is it you want, here?"

Raising a hand just above his hips he moved it in a wave like pattern as what looked like multiple strands of something were appearing all around both of them in different directions, but moving towards Kamae specifically.

"When I was approaching this is what I sensed; magic moving towards you, however I could not and still cannot directly sense you. Both are varying degrees of unnerving."

Wiggling his fingers and shaking his hand dismissively the visual dissipated before his hand moved back to its position behind his back. All the while he had yet to take his eyes off of Kamae's.

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Devils Come in Different shapes May 14, 2022 20:29:34 GMT -5

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The individual came to a stop before the demon, standing perfectly still. Whatever the shinjin was planning, the demon would be ready. He placed his hands on his hips while he watched the other. He was not as tall as Kamae, but size meant nothing to the demon. Many races who were highly intelligent and some even strong were smaller. So the two stared off, the demon watching the Shinjin with the same cocky attitude he always had. The two were like ice and fire. Different in so many respects that it would be like seeing to different elements at that very moment.

"Here? In this very spot? Oh you know, just warming up under the suns and relaxing."

Kamae stated, waving his hand dismissively while he kept that toothy grin.

"The allow me to nerve you one more."

Kamae stated as the Sankishin's aura became sensible and it was clearly not as strong as the Shinjin. Though it would be if he was at full power, yet he wasn't at this moment. The Sankishin's strength wouldn't be for a long time, not until the tree was summoned at least.

"Name's Kamae Ghoun... A disgusting and terrible experience to meet you so far Creator. Or do you simply prefer manipulator?"

Kamae stated, continuing to let his arrogance and pride show. It was clear he was disgusted with Shinjin, yet it was a wonder which of them would be the first to strike. Kamae had no intentions of fighting if he could avoid it, but then again if he was forced to...

"I assume you lot only have one name right? Whats yours shinjin, what title did you take for yourself?"

The question Kamae asked was full of mockery and venom. Yet he too was like the Shinjin, showing none of the anger or rage he felt. Only the cocky grin and the arrogance of a demon.

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Devils Come in Different shapes May 14, 2022 23:13:20 GMT -5

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It wasn't all that surprising that he wasn't getting a straight answer, given that the more he watched this being the more his energy and presence felt like something from Otherworld. He wasn't many things to obvious degrees, and what it was narrowing it down to didn't leave him with a lot of confidence this interaction would go well. Even as cordial as Erebos and himself had become, they were still not what you would call outright friends, having more than their fair share of issues, and directly fighting one another on more than a few occasions. It was whatever he was feeling around the person he had confronted that was now even more so bothering him, and his eyes slowly started to narrow, still not removing his stare from Kamae's eyes.

"Mm"

Not much of a response, just a monotone noise that barely gave an indication he was listening. Another person trying to get under his skin, and far from the first that would fail in doing so let alone get a rise out of him. This was likely going to be one of those situations where he simply wouldn't learn what was going on without more prodding than he cared to do, but given the magical energies he specifically felt, his guard was still up all the same.

"I'm no creator, I am in fact an observer. Few Shinjin are in the way you are undoubtedly insinuating, and they've all been Kai, which I can assure you I am not."

There was a part of him that wanted to immediately start creating things just for the sake of doing so, but he still wasn't sure how much he could drop his guard. When he started to feel the energy not from who he was talking to, but whatever it was surrounding him now, his suspicions only increased that further. It wasn't often that people came to Namek for no other reason than to relax or see the sights, regardless how ill or well-intentioned they were.

"I prefer less sarcasm and more genuine conversation. Ward will do, however."

Not the first being to dislike Shinjin so openly, but again they Demon's, which further lead him to lean towards who and whatever he was looking at being similar if nothing else.

"So I ask again, what is it you want here, on Namek."

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Devils Come in Different shapes May 14, 2022 23:37:02 GMT -5

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Kamae couldn't help but chuckle as the Shinjin explained he was not a creator but an observer. While the demon loathed to accept the shinjin at its word, he had no other option at this point. Shinjin were so far and between it could be heard to find a proper source of information. As the Shinjin spoke of proper communication and less sarcasm the demon decided it would be in better to tone it down for now. He still needed to learn all he could about Shinjin, if he was to expunge them from the universe someday.

"Alright then. Ward it is."

Kamae stated in a much more cordial but till guarded tone. It was clear neither of them were going to like each other, but that didn't mean communication at to devolve into name calling. Perhaps Fend had rubbed off on him a little to much.

"I am here on namek to conduct an experiment. I am studying the effects of genes and evolutionary cycles."

Kamae would then look in the direction of where the Mazoku made their home, the dreadful magic that still lingered in the planet like a sweet aroma to the demon.

"The Mazoku are demonic in nature, or at least... some of them are. My current objective was to simply observe them from a distance but I got hungry and was feeding."

Kamae looked directly to Ward then, still smiling the toothy grin of arrogance as always.

"I am a demon, as I am sure you have already figured out. So then Shinjin Ward... Are you going to strike me down, rid the galaxy of a little nasty demon hm?"

Kamae was well aware that Ward could kill him if they fought, not that he would go quietly. But unfortunately Kamae's existence wouldn't be erased so easily, he wouldn't stay dead long after all.

"Are you saying that only Kai are creators then? That the ones who shape and create life are known as Kai? If you are not one of them... then why are YOU here and what is it you are observing?"

Kamae asked, turning the question on its head after answering it... mostly truthful.

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Devils Come in Different shapes May 15, 2022 18:21:19 GMT -5

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The last time he heard someone tel him they were doing an experiment there was a mutation forced upon a species in the South Quadrant that gave them the ability to breathe and filter sand through gills. At the time it was somewhere between amusing and interesting, but in hindsight it was unnecessary at best, and cruel at worst, but this was unlikely to be something quite to that level. Hearing the words spoken however caused his otherwise stoned-face look to be disrupted by a single twitch of his forehead right above the left eyebrow, narrowing his eyes that much further.

Phakk had managed to convince him the Mazoku were filled with evil being lead astray by demons, going as far as to tell him they were worshiping them. It was embarrassing to know he had been so naive and the actions it lead to was a direct reason he was standing here now talking to what he assumed was a demon, speaking of the Mazoku. This was all hitting far too close to home, and each explanation was peeling away the built up layers and exposing a raw nerve no one wanted exposed.

"Your origins and species are of no concern to me anymore than your alignment. Your kind are as much a part of the balance as any other. In saying that, I would politely suggest that you leave the Mazoku to live as they are. Perhaps you were unaware upon letting your curiosity getting the best of you and coming to Namek, but this Planet is now one of two under my direct protection, the Mazoku doubly so."

There was just the lightest-scent of a serious tone as he spoke, not quite clear and no real emotion to it, but he meant the words all the same as strongly as he was willing to share them. He wasn't looking for a fight, and while a few percentage ticks more likely to fight if need be, still preferred to avoid it, especially here. The shift in tone caught him by surprise however, and the narrowing of his eyes relaxed.

"It's all a matter of what you are referring to as creation. I can create things with the use of magic, but that is not the same as creation of a universal scale such as planets or living creatures. Kai's are likely the only beings strong enough, but it is specifically the Supreme Kai who does and has done so. Kai are still Shinjin, but it's a title. Perhaps one day I'll be a Kai myself. I observe what is, it's that simple. Anything, everything, nothing; I observe. I'm here because I observe Namek often and I've grown fond of it."

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Devils Come in Different shapes May 17, 2022 5:29:55 GMT -5

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Kamae listened to the Shinjin ask what his alignment was, to which the demon simply held up his hands and shook his head. How could one ask such a vague question and not get a chuckle by one such as him. He had always believed in the power of choice, and that which made anything Sentient prone to shifting. There was no fixed answer to that question and for a shinjin to ask him that was just... amusing at best. Still he wouldn't taunt to much and instead place a hand to his chin as he paced back then forth while thinking upon the answer to it.

"My alignment... What would I define myself as... Well for a shinjin to ask that is a rather... disturbing turn of events frankly. For you see I know only of the kai's or rather... of the one who created the first of my kind. You gave us freedom to choose our paths in life to be good or evil... Such freedom is still with me today. I am neither good... but I am not completely evil. I am a deal maker, born for my own self interest and aiming to better myself."

Kamae then turned about on his heels before pacing the other direction.

"But if I am to be considered evil, then I guess it is for my lacking concern for the greater good of the universe. So by that standard I am evil..."

Kamae then turned about on his heels once more, the toothy grin of the demon never leaving as he paced about.

"However, I have aided many in my long long years of life. Helped an ailing girl, helped rebels free themselves from tyranny and taught people magic that gave them prosperity for all..."

Kamae then turned about once more, holding up a finger as he made yet another rambling speech.

"But I only did so because it would aid me personally."

Kamae then stopped before looking at Ward in question knowing all to well the predictable notion that those with the "good" in their hearts would think.

"So I suppose I am evil, or at least... that is what others tell me. But my view is rarely taken into account on the matter and only the view that person has is ever factored in. Your opinion is probably that I am a villain and if so then more power to you. I am not one to argue blind faith in ones own beliefs."

Kamae was an open minded individual, empathetic to others but often chose his own views over what others believed. Because to him, to be alive was to improve ones own life during the short time one was alive. That was what a mortal was "designed" to do. It was only when one broke that chain to become a deviant of that thought pattern or behavior that others viewed them as monsters.

"Matters little about the kais or their workings. What matters is... me and you are similar. I assume you heard about the girl who wanted the Mazoku to worship her and her allies?"

Kamae asked, not aware of the connection Ward may have had with the events during their attack.

"I assume you defended those people when someone wished to alter their beliefs and tried to 'force' the Mazoku to change... to evolve their mindsets? Even now that magic is truly beautiful. I can taste it even now. Marvelous."

Kamae would inhale deeply through his mouth, and dark magic could be seen flowing into him as he closed his eyes to relish that devious taste. A vile magic that altered the very scope of reality and was like a song bird to his ears.

"I am here to observe their reaction to the girl's attempts to get them to worship her. I was once a god myself, worshipped as the forbidden one and looked upon with disgust... but that in of itself was a form of worship. I wanted to observe if the girl's attack had changed their views and culture. How have they taken it?"

Kamae asked, mockingly teasing the fact Ward was observing them but also probing for information on them. He was well aware of their own culture, having brain washed a few into telling him the truth. He knew a great deal about who they were, and their beliefs... but he wanted to see what Ward had to say on it.

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Devils Come in Different shapes May 18, 2022 22:16:19 GMT -5

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It was clear somewhere along the way wires had been crossed, either because of the way he spoke or the extent he was being listened to, but he listened intently all the same. If nothing else it was always a level of interesting to see how people categorized themselves in these baskets of good or evil or justify their actions to keep them away from them just the same.

"I think you've misunderstood, I wasn't asking for you to define your alignment as much as stating I'm not interested in which way it sways. You can placate your inner self and say you are more good, more evil, or neither and it doesn't directly impact my opinion. Perhaps other Shinjin would disagree as not all of us follow the same views. Some see the Supreme Kai as the shining beacon of good in the universe while I see them as the symbol of balance, which holds everything. Good is as important to our universe as Evil, and far too few understand that due to selfish personal reasons."

His eyes never left Kamae as he can to move, not even as much as a flicker in any other direction. The explanation continued, but it wasn't one he was terribly surprised by, nor too concerned with. This was far from the first Demon he had direct contact with, and they did tend to act more evil than good at their core, not being the most balanced of creatures by nature. It was still nothing that bothered him, as they were necessary just as much as any other being.

"You seem to find yourself an interesting topic, yes? I'm thinking far less of you even now as we stand and speak to one another. Not because I have anything against you, but it's simply not how my mind works. I look at your species on the whole in a different light than I might with mortals, but I don't make any effort to label you as anything more than what you do in the moment. I don't care to dub you a hero anymore than a villain. It's all different words for the same thing, weighing on either side of the scale of balance this universe is built on. You assume far too much of me. I wonder what Shinjin you've come in contact with to hold such beliefs."

It would be all to surprising if he had met others and had formed this unfortunate opinions, given how different and downright strange quite a few of the other Shinjin who had come to the mortal realm were. Fend, Phakk, Tiamat, and Kowlin just to name a few that were not the poster children for giving his species a good name certainly, but that's what this realm and the mortals were most exposed to. Ward had come to the mortal realm to learn while the others had come as thieves, forces of darkness, selfish pride, and whatever insanity Kowlin was up to. They had certainly given Shinjin a bad name.

Before responding again the topic brought up caused him to pause, wondering if he was speaking of Phakk, and finding it an all too familiar topic as of late. What it also was as was just as familiar was far off from what the truth of the matter was. All too often, likely for the better given how the situation was spoken of, he was left out of the story and the situation, but it was frustrating all the same how it was painted and told.

"I did in fact protect them then. I was there, and despite all sides of the situation I was one of the few that actually cared directly about the Mazoku. One side was blood-thirsty to fight without understanding the situation and attacked like overzealous heroes and made a mess of the entire outing. The other side was a misunderstood being with admittedly misguided ideas and was never allowed to do more than speak before being labeled evil and attacked without provocation for the crime of trying to explain themselves. Once they defended themselves and things became ugly it simply turned into "see, we were right all along!". You clearly misunderstand what she stood for or her intentions. She wanted less for their worship and more to free them from the shackles of worshiping those like yourself, but again in a very misguided manner, thinking looking to a Shinjin would move them away from worshiping Demons. The end result and the mayhem that followed was the fault more so of a Demon that cared little about Namek and was looking for a fight, another Shinjin who couldn't utter a statement without talking about killing someone and how heroic they were, and a creature from the planet Konats that was frothing at the mouth like a crazed beast after transforming into one. The girl you speak of was the least of the Mazoku's worries that day. I was forced to take down the frothing beast and I carried the one you are referring to away from the battle as well. So you see, more than enough has been done to these people, so while I appreciate observing, I won't allow others to bring anything I see as harm to them further than what has. Take that as you will."

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Devils Come in Different shapes May 20, 2022 10:57:30 GMT -5

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Kamae said nothing as the other spoke, keeping himself still while he took in the words of the shinjin. A pang of... understanding was hard to ignore. How often had he been treated the same way only to be attacked proclaiming they were in the right. Understanding was a rare commodity this days, as it often was with those who had higher intelligence. The dumber people of the universe often times simply threw themselves around without attempting to understand what they were doing. Take Fend for example, the girl was obnoxious in her efforts to be childish.

"I see... You are smarter than I gave you credit for Ward."

Kamae stated with a hint of respect in his voice, serpent eyes watching the other carefully. He mauled the words over in his head while he thought about it all. After a good long pause, the demon simply closed his eyes and shook his head.

"As for finding myself an interesting topic, of course. In a universe that cares little if you live or die... Someone has to find you interesting. So I made that someone myself."

Kamae stated as he shrugged, before crossing his arms again. Though his eyes were closed, the Sankishin could still see Ward and defend him if need be.

"As for your outing... That seems to be how people work this days. Faithfully blind to any truth or understanding. When you try to improve things only to be accused of evil despite the clear improvements. Though i doubt you'd agree."

Kamae snorted as his clear distrust of Shinjin took over once more.

"I Understood nothing of the situation and made no judgements. I was simply observing, so my misunderstanding was never there to begin with. One can only get the truth from both sides of a story. Like a coin, two sides tell you something, but its the sides of the coin that is the truth. The fine line between two sides trying to scream who is right in the end."

Kamae reopened his eyes and stared at the ground in thought for a moment, considering all he had just learned. This Ward was very informative so far, and this had made the demon much more appealed to talking than before. To often did he experience dullard's who were incapable of thinking more then five seconds into the future without sticking to some hidden moral compass.

"We aren't much different you and I, Mr Ward. Though I'll admit I prefer a more hands on approach..."

Kamae's eyes narrowed as he watched the Shinjin, wondering if it was possibly to get him to help him. Manipulation? Twisting the truth? No it likely wouldn't work and the shinjin would simply believe his ways were cruel... But worth a shot.

"You see... I have an idea. I have no intentions of interfering with the Mazoku, as they don't possess anything I want. However I do have a proposition for you Mr Ward... See I am a man of science, of creating things and improving things. I wonder if you are too... or do you simply prefer to watch the universe grow stagnant? We've both experienced what has been the beliefs of the "heroes" or those who would simply refuse to hear the truth. Would you be willing to make a deal with me?"

Kamae asked, his toothy grin returning as he waited for the Shinjin to respond. Perhaps he would help Kamae if he could spin it good enough, but only time would tell.

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Devils Come in Different shapes May 22, 2022 2:51:28 GMT -5

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There was something unnerving about being complimented, which was likely peeling back layers of issues that no one had near the time to unpack. This was usually the part in recent conversations where he'd listen to someone downplay his words, beliefs, the lack of shooting sparkles out of his ass with overblown emotions, it was all tiresome. It didn't make him necessarily appreciate the idea of what this creature in front of him was doing, but there was a ping of something that did in fact disarm him if just for a him as his ego was stroked.

"Less intelligence and more experience. You don't live for centuries without seeing things for what they really are unless you are naive and truly ignorant."

An interesting take was followed shortly after, and one he didn't find any inherent flaws in, but one that didn't necessarily align with his own thoughts. Ward didn't exactly hold himself up any higher than others even if he came off that way, at least not in the way others might have interpreted it. It was true however that the universe didn't put more or less energy into individuals nor did it care for their deaths or births, but unlike Kamae that didn't make Ward look at himself specifically any different. He was once scolded for stating he saw himself as a tool put here as many other Shinjin were, and not putting enough stock in himself as an individual, but as usual mortals were short-sighted and hearing it from one wasn't all too surprising.

This Demon however putting much more stock into themselves was nothing he found all that surprising as he tended to find them all too quick to put themselves above others. He considered Erebos at least some what of a friend, but he wasn't so blind as to think he was different, he just had diverging goals. This one definitely spoke far more than Erebos did, and seemed more interested in picking things apart in his own way where Erebos was more inclined to stab something and slink back into the shadows with a laugh, so it wasn't as if they were any more similar to each other as Ward was to Fend quite frankly.

There was a single blink from Ward after a moment of silence, and it wasn't until then that anyone might have noticed just have little he did so, turning into a borderline statue when he wasn't speaking. His stare was piercing as if he was trying to dissect Kamae with nothing more than a gaze, not even giving a sign he was listening before his response finally came.

"The universe grows as it grows. There are those that push and pull, create and destroy, but I don't have the power to do that even if I might have the will for it. It's not my place, at least not yet. I step in when I feel so inclined, but I rarely do the pushing myself. My previous statement stands as said; I will step in and I won't allow others to harm the Mazoku, even if it isn't intentional. You are however free to give your pitch and I'll listen. Nothing else is promised."

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Devils Come in Different shapes May 22, 2022 5:52:57 GMT -5

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Kamae watched as the shinjin stood silently and as still as possible. The two of them were very different in their manners, but the both of them were quite old it seemed and could have a lot of information to share with one another. Though it was clear that Ward was intent on being a watcher rather than an active role in the future of the universe, and Kamae could tell he enjoyed that role. The demon placed a hand on his chin trying to find the right words to say here. Everything he had gained about Ward was he was a stalwart watcher, dedicated to his role and was attempting to be seem... unmoving.

"We both know that living people harbor ill will in them. Where there is Sentient life... there is evil and good. Both of which stim from their desires to take from another. The sin of life is that we are born to take from another, this is a fact of life. Nothing can change this. War, destruction and some famines are caused by a sentient race either taking or being taken from."

Kamae had lived for several thousand years, having observed all the different civilizations of the past and each one had gone to war at some point... or another. Whether to defend their borders or to fight a growing threat from within. War lead to something being taken, whether that be freedoms, resources or land. It was the fundamental nature of mortals.

"Sometimes you have to step in to stop them from making a mistake, to take an active role in their development to prevent more tragedy from happening. Take the Mazoku for example, someone tried to step in to make their life better... to take an active role in a clan of people."

Kamae wanted to word his speaking carefully here... as he could tell that the subject was touchy for Ward. He had only spoken a few sentences until he asked about the tribe and that event. It was clear he had a passion about what happened and Kamae knew he had been one of the ones trying to "change" the Mazoku. Ward had admitted it just then.

"I have a similar view of the Mazoku and Namek... A demon clan tainted genetically by the unfortunate intervention of demonic energy. They are demonic and have a very... unique biology. I can remove that corruption, by introducing completely healthy genetics into them, ones purified by the Shinjin."

Kamae stated as he looked to the clan in the distance, or rather... he was simply sensing them. The demonic energies of this land was caused by their constant rituals or whatever they were doing. Kamae could help remove that... for a price.

"I am one of the smartest people in the universe when it comes to genetics, I can do just about anything. I've been doing it for nearly eight thousand years after all, I've had a lot of practice."

Kamae placed his hands behind his back, looking Ward right in the eyes as he spoke. His toothy grin returning, and a low chuckle emitted from him as he did so.

"I can cure them Mr Ward. I won't force them... I'll leave them completely alone, but I can give you a cure to offer them. I can create a vial that will ultimately alter their DNA, painlessly when perfected of course, to be a completely pure Namekian race. Warrior clan, Dragon clan and Mazoku... they will live in pace. I will not disturb them for as long as their civilization persists if you make this deal with me."

Kamae was a deal maker after all, and to him a deal was sacred, hallowed ground between to individuals. Something he would never break even if it cost him greatly.

"Help me develop it.. help me protect my research when the time is right... and I promise a cure for the Mazoku both painless and pure. They won't need to hide in the mountains any longer... They can be free from the injustice placed upon them by their genetics. Help me... help them."

Kamae then held out his hand, a sign of a deal being made, and he would uphold it when the cure was found. All he needed was for the tree to be protected.

"Now I will admit... my research will be vile at first, but so is the progress of science. I can promise to do my research in a secluded place, far from civilized people. A few might get hurt, but if you help me in my efforts, I promise you rewards to save a race of people from themselves. Help me end their isolation Ward... help me make the universe a better place. I won't pretend it won't benefit me in the end... but whats better than two birds with one stone..."

With that Kamae would remain silent, gloved hand outstretched as he waited for Ward's response. Hopefully he had made a valuable argument he hoped...

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Devils Come in Different shapes May 22, 2022 10:13:39 GMT -5

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There were seemingly as many things the two had in common as they disagreed on frankly. and it was hard to tell which would stray or match. There were times he would listen and find himself wanting to nod, surprised how much he agreed, only to immediately think to himself that the opinion of this Demon was shifting drastically in an instant. He was aware however there was a chance the same was happening from Kamae's point of view, and there wasn't anything he wasn't accustomed to, but it was jarring trying to make a mental inventory of which opinions were shifting into which column.

"The point you make of stepping in is certainly one I'm on the fence about. I would prefer to not step into their squabbles in most cases, but I admit I did find myself stepping in not long ago in a sense with a bigger role that likely no one will hear of. It's something I wish I hadn't done in hindsight, but again, given the circumstances I don't think many realized what had happened. I've not been in the mortal realm for long, and I've done my best not to involve myself too directly, but mistakes have been made here and there."

There was that point again where things shifted just as soon as they had met, like magnets pulling at one another then pushing relentlessly, and the way Kamae spoke was like an itch under his skin. Ward was at least aware, as it wasn't anything of a surprise, how the Mazoku were affected by demonic energy in some form, but he didn't particularly like the idea of trying to purify them.

"I'm not sure that would be a wise decision. Some of the Namekian people might not like the mutations of the Mazoku, but I assure you they don't all feel the same. It's worn like a badge of honor, and there are many of them that show no signs of mutation or twisted power from it. Even if I was so inclined to agree with something like that, which I assure you I'm not, I would feel confident enough in saying they wouldn't be thrilled with the idea."

He could already imagine the pure indigence that would come from pitching such an idea to the Mazoku as a whole, especially their leadership. He had already been scolded on the idea that nothing was wrong with them that would need fixing or healing, much like how Pankaa strangely enough had scolded him in a similar manner after what Phakk had done to him. There was another long blinking, but his eyes were further narrowed as they opened, giving Kamae a look of suspicion at his claims and ideas, not all too fond of them.

"I've learned the hard way that not everything seen as broken is in fact broken, especially when it comes to mortals. They have an unhealthy obsession which taking pride in their flaws, making it a part of their very being. I'm not knowledgeable about genetics necessarily, but what I can do is heal, mend, reshape even, but I've been turned down many times by those on this very planet to do so in many different instances. It's not my place nor yours to push what we find as flawed or pure or anything else on these people, and I've learned that, though it took dozens of attempts to have it fully sink in."

His eyes closed, but it wasn't a blink, as they didn't open once they had this time. There was a movement behind them from his eyes, but still they stayed closed, even as he began to speak, slower, slightly more monotone, and clearly more serious.

"The Namekians are at peace, as much as they can be. There peace is disturbed not by their own flaws, but from others coming to their planet to look for ways to exploit them, subjugate them, purify them, free them, kill them. There are some here that are strong, but not as strong as either of us I'm afraid, so until that time I protect them. I help them by allowing them to help themselves without unwarranted intervention, further than has been thrust upon them by outside forces, self inflicted or not. So..."

Slowly his eyes opened, staring at Kamae as he took a deep breath.

"...Until that day they are able to protect themselves, I will protect the Namekians; Dragon Clan, Warrior Clan, Mazoku Clan, it doesn't matter. I will intervene as little as I can, and if others feel so inclined to intervene forcefully against them and this planet, then I will certainly get involved. I can feel your determination from here just from the words you've spoken, but if I leave from this meeting and you proceed with this plan of yours, be it hurting a Namekian, a creature upon this planet, the ground we stand on, the planet itself to complete whatever your true end goal is, then we will meet again under much less pleasant circumstances. So, my deal as a counter is, leave Namek to its own devices and bring no harm to it, and I won't bring harm in return."

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Devils Come in Different shapes May 22, 2022 10:49:35 GMT -5

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Kamae's smile did fade as his deal was turned down, but he was happy in another way. Ward was content to let the mortals do as they will... and yet that was another hypocritical that the demon found himself wanting to pick at. How he despised the Shinjin and their ideals. But at least Ward was somewhat more applicable than the ones he had met before. Kowlin was just as insane as some of the worst out there, much like him... but at least he was willing to do what needed to be done on a certain level.

"I see... That is a shame. But I suspected as much."

Kamae stated shaking his head before placing his hands on his hips. To think a Shinjin could truly harbor the motives of a mortal was delusion he supposed. Though he could now tell where his fury was to be transmitted when he did take his revenge on the Shinjin. Kai's were the ones he would seek out someday, but that was for another time.

"Well I suppose that is the end of that."

Kamae then looked into the distance, pondering the next course of action. Not even an adjustment to the deal, would make this stick in the mud change. He was like an old tree, rooted in his ways and only ever changing when those roots were forced to bend. Nothing but an extremely drastic event could alter Ward, that was what Kamae got out of this interaction... So one day Kamae would be forced to kill him. Not that it mattered, he hated all shinjin equally after all. So with a shrug the demon would sigh in defeat.

"So be it then. I hope we do not meet again but who is to know in this great big expansive universe. I suppose we are all just on a journey and who knows where it will lead."

Kamae stated with a chuckle, eyes going to the ground as he tried to find the words amidst fury and hatred. Ward's answer had angered him, infuriated him so... but he knew better than to simply let his anger get the better of him.

"We cannot exist in the realm of mortals without getting involved. It is like being a rock in a pond surrounded by water. Everyday we interact with them, becoming apart of their lives and changing them slowly if not surely. I was once and still am part mortal. But only by rising myself up above the dregs of an old creation could I see more clearly. Becoming more than a mortal but still possessing the same desires and experience."

Kamae looked to Ward, his smile not returned but he was not amused nor did he feel like trying to appear threatening.

"You will be forced or slip into a role eventually... where you will have to choose which side you are on in the mortal realm. Nothing here ever goes as planned, so staying out of their conflicts will only lead you to being isolated from everyone and everything until nothing wants you around. Sometimes control is best left to the chaotic nature of mortal kind... and sometimes its best to give them a little push to see how that change is received."

Kamae traced his mouth then with a finger, the fake body he possessed having been a husk he had used to feel again... but even then he felt nothing of normal interactions.

"But what you say proves to me that Shinjin are still as meddling as I believed. You will 'protect' them from anything... even other mortals. So you are already intervening in the adjustment of their growth. If saiyans come to invade... then you will protect the Namekians. You've chosen your side it seems and don't even realize it. I pity you Shinjin... I truly do."

Kamae felt as if the Shinjin were less than mortals now that he thought about it more clearly. They believed themselves above the mortals they protect, but the only thing they protect them from was other mortals. The events that transpire are the natural flow of things, unless it was a divine that decided to threaten a mortal race.

"By wanting to protect the Namekian world, you've already put yourself in an active role of the natural order but place yourself on a pedestal above them. You live amongst them but think you are "observing" them. No different than a scientist watching an experiment grow... but instead you've put yourself in the experiment and been altered by it without realizing. You are no longer an observer... you are a protector and don't even know the difference."

Kamae stated, as an observer would simply watch and wait... a protector comes to the aid of those in need. It was a shame that Ward was unable to accept the reality of his situation... or perhaps he had never thought about it.